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Franchise Coaches Interview Articles

Conversations with franchise leaders and CEOs, and the lessons every franchisor can take from them.


Value & Pricing
CEO Interview
Smack Pizza Co logo

How Smack Pizza Built a Premium Brand Without Competing on Price

When I sat down with Savvas Themistocleous, Managing Director of Smack Pizza, I expected our conversation to revolve around pizza.

Instead, we spoke about leadership.

We spoke about supplier relationships, landlord negotiations, franchisee support, operational discipline, and the importance of protecting margins without compromising quality.

It struck me that Smack Pizza isn’t simply selling pizza. It is building a business around a clear philosophy: customers don’t necessarily want the cheapest option—they want the best value.

At a time when many businesses are under pressure to discount, that’s a refreshing perspective.

Here are some of the biggest lessons I took away from our conversation.

Lesson 1: Compete on Value, Not Price

One of the strongest themes throughout our discussion was that quality should never become the first casualty when trading conditions become difficult.

Smack Pizza has deliberately positioned itself as a premium offering. Its dough is fermented for 48 hours, allowing it to develop a lighter texture and deeper flavour while making it easier to digest. The business has also invested heavily in sourcing quality local ingredients, working with suppliers that share its commitment to consistency rather than simply chasing the lowest price.

This isn’t about creating an expensive product for the sake of it. It’s about giving customers a reason to choose Smack Pizza because they genuinely believe they are receiving better value.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the biggest mistakes I see franchisors make during difficult economic periods is competing on price.

Price is easy for competitors to copy.

Value is much harder.

When customers understand why your product or service is different—and they experience that difference consistently—they become far less price-sensitive.

The strongest franchise brands compete on value, trust and experience.

Lesson 2: Innovation Should Solve Problems, Not Create Them

Smack Pizza has introduced products such as truffle pizzas, chilli honey combinations, Buffalo chicken pizzas and Paneer Tikka options. Yet what impressed me wasn’t the creativity itself—it was the thinking behind it.

Savvas explained that they don’t simply launch products because they’re fashionable. They observe customer behaviour, test ideas, and refine concepts before rolling them out across the business. They also pay attention not only to what customers say, but to what they don’t say.

Innovation, in other words, is disciplined.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Many franchisors confuse innovation with constant change.

The two are not the same.

Your franchisees don’t need a never-ending stream of new products. They need thoughtful improvements that make commercial sense, strengthen the brand, and genuinely improve the customer experience.

Innovation should always have a purpose.

Lesson 3: Small Stores Can Be More Profitable Than Big Ones

One of the more interesting parts of our conversation centred on store format.

Rather than chasing larger, more expensive restaurants, Smack Pizza has increasingly focused on smaller takeaway-oriented stores with high throughput.

The reasoning is practical.

Larger restaurants bring higher rental costs, bigger wage bills, greater utility expenses and significantly more operational complexity. A smaller, efficient format can often deliver stronger returns while reducing financial risk.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Many businesses still equate growth with bigger premises.

In reality, growth is about stronger economics.

As franchisors, we should continually ask:

“Does this investment improve profitability, or does it simply make us look bigger?”

Bigger isn’t always better.

Better is better.

Lesson 4: Every Rand Matters

This was probably the part of the interview that resonated with me the most.

Savvas spoke openly about reviewing supplier contracts, negotiating continuously, buying strategically, working closely with landlords, monitoring energy consumption and analysing seemingly small costs that quietly erode profitability.

He shared a simple example:

If a particular item increases by R150 a box and you’re buying multiple boxes every week, that seemingly insignificant increase can quickly become equivalent to an employee’s monthly salary over the course of a year.

Margins aren’t usually lost through one dramatic mistake.

They’re lost through hundreds of small decisions that go unnoticed.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Financial discipline isn’t only the responsibility of franchisees.

Great franchisors constantly look for ways to improve buying power, negotiate more effectively, reduce unnecessary costs and protect franchisee profitability.

Helping franchisees make more money isn’t just good for them.

It’s good for the entire franchise system.

Lesson 5: Great Franchise Support Goes Beyond Operations

Perhaps the biggest takeaway for me had nothing to do with pizza.

It had everything to do with leadership.

Savvas has experienced life as a franchisee himself. That perspective shapes how he supports his network today.

Rather than waiting until problems become crises, he believes in being present, visiting stores regularly, talking to staff, checking standards, listening carefully and helping franchisees work through challenges before they escalate.

This isn’t about policing franchisees.

It’s about partnering with them.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Over the years, I’ve observed that the strongest franchise relationships are built on trust rather than fear.

Field visits shouldn’t leave franchisees feeling inspected.

They should leave them feeling better equipped to succeed.

Support is not about catching people doing things wrong.

It’s about helping them do more things right.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on my conversation with Savvas, these are some questions I believe every franchisor should consider:

  • Are we competing on price or on value?
  • What genuinely differentiates our offering from competitors?
  • Are we helping franchisees protect their margins?
  • How often do we review supplier relationships and operating costs?
  • Do our field visits feel like coaching sessions or compliance inspections?
  • Are we innovating with purpose, or simply changing for the sake of change?

Final Thoughts

One of the reasons I enjoy interviewing franchise leaders is that the conversation often goes in unexpected directions.

I thought I was going to learn about pizza.

Instead, I was reminded that successful franchise systems are built on something much deeper.

They are built on clear positioning, disciplined operations, strong relationships, thoughtful innovation and an unwavering commitment to helping franchisees succeed.

Smack Pizza’s story isn’t really about pizza.

It’s about making hundreds of good decisions, every single day.

And perhaps that’s one of the most valuable lessons of all.

Growth Strategy
CEO Interview
Motherland Coffee Company logo

Why Motherland Coffee Chose Company-Owned Stores Before Franchising

There is often enormous pressure on successful businesses to franchise as quickly as possible.

A brand gains momentum, customers love the product, enquiries start flooding in, and suddenly franchising seems like the obvious next step.

But not every successful business is ready to franchise.

One of the aspects of my conversation with Sebastian Schneider, CEO of Motherland Coffee, that impressed me most was their patience. Rather than rushing into franchising, they spent years refining their business through company-owned stores first. They focused on understanding what worked, what didn’t, and how to create systems that could be replicated consistently.

In my experience, this is one of the biggest differences between businesses that simply grow and businesses that build sustainable franchise systems.

Here are the lessons that stood out most.

Lesson 1: Success Doesn’t Automatically Mean You’re Ready to Franchise

Many entrepreneurs believe that because one store is successful, the concept is ready to franchise.

Unfortunately, that isn’t necessarily true.

Motherland Coffee resisted the temptation to franchise before they fully understood their own business. They chose to operate company-owned stores first, allowing them to refine operations, improve consistency and build confidence in the model before asking someone else to invest in it.

That decision takes discipline.

Growing through company-owned stores is often slower and requires more capital. But it also gives a business the opportunity to make mistakes using its own money rather than a franchisee’s.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the first questions I ask businesses considering franchising is:

“Have you actually proven the model, or have you simply proven that you’re a good operator?”

Those are two completely different things.

Many founders are exceptional entrepreneurs.

Far fewer have created a business that another person can successfully replicate.

Franchising isn’t about proving you can run one successful business.

It’s about proving someone else can.

Lesson 2: Build the Systems Before You Build the Network

Motherland Coffee recognised that consistency doesn’t happen by accident.

Customers expect the same coffee, the same experience and the same service regardless of which store they visit.

That only happens when systems are documented, tested and continually improved.

Every challenge experienced in a company-owned store becomes an opportunity to strengthen the operating model before franchisees inherit it.

Franchise Coaches Insight

This is one of the biggest mistakes I see.

Businesses often think operations manuals create consistency.

They don’t.

Operations manuals simply document consistent systems.

The real work happens long before the manual is written.

It happens through testing, refining, measuring and improving.

By the time a franchisee joins your network, most operational problems should already have been solved.

Lesson 3: Protecting the Brand Sometimes Means Growing More Slowly

In today’s business environment, speed is often celebrated.

Open more stores.

Expand faster.

Capture market share.

But Motherland Coffee’s approach reminds us that growth without discipline can damage a brand just as quickly as poor operations.

Every new location represents the brand.

Every poor customer experience affects every other store.

Protecting the brand sometimes requires saying “not yet.”

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the hardest words for founders to say is no.

No to unsuitable franchisees.

No to poor locations.

No to expanding before systems are ready.

Ironically, these decisions often determine whether a franchise system succeeds over the next twenty years.

Growth is exciting.

Sustainable growth is strategic.

Lesson 4: Company-Owned Stores Never Stop Adding Value

Many people see company-owned stores merely as stepping stones before franchising.

I don’t.

Even mature franchise systems benefit enormously from retaining some corporate-owned locations.

Motherland Coffee demonstrated how company stores become testing grounds for new products, operational improvements, technology and customer experiences before changes are introduced across the wider network.

Instead of asking franchisees to absorb all the risk associated with innovation, the franchisor tests ideas first.

That builds confidence.

It also builds trust.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Company-owned stores give franchisors something incredibly valuable:

real operational intelligence.

When every store is franchised, it’s easy to lose touch with day-to-day operational realities.

Corporate stores help franchisors remain practitioners rather than simply advisers.

The strongest franchise leaders never stop operating.

Lesson 5: Franchising Is About Relationships, Not Just Expansion

Throughout our discussion, another theme emerged.

Motherland Coffee isn’t simply interested in selling franchises.

They’re interested in finding partners who share their values.

That distinction matters.

Franchise agreements may define the legal relationship.

Shared values define the working relationship.

When franchisees understand and believe in the purpose behind the brand, consistency becomes much easier to achieve.

Franchise Coaches Insight

The best franchise systems don’t recruit franchisees.

They select them.

Every new franchisee changes the culture of the network.

The right person strengthens it.

The wrong person weakens it.

Recruitment should never focus solely on financial capability.

Attitude, coachability, alignment with the brand and willingness to follow systems are often far better predictors of long-term success.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on Motherland Coffee’s journey, I believe every business considering franchising should ask itself:

  • Have we genuinely proven our business model?
  • Could someone else achieve similar success using our systems?
  • Are our operating procedures documented because we’ve tested them—or because we think they should work?
  • Would additional company-owned stores strengthen our franchise offering?
  • Are we growing because we’re ready, or because we’re impatient?

Final Thoughts

One of the greatest misconceptions about franchising is that it’s simply a faster way to grow.

It isn’t.

Franchising is a commitment to helping other people succeed using a business model you’ve already proven.

Motherland Coffee’s decision to invest in company-owned stores before franchising reflects a philosophy that I believe more businesses should adopt.

Take the time to refine.

Take the time to test.

Take the time to learn.

Because every improvement you make before franchising becomes a gift to every franchisee who joins your network afterwards.

In a world that often rewards speed, Motherland Coffee reminds us that sometimes the smartest growth strategy is knowing when to wait.


Brand Trust
CEO Interview
Car Service City logo

How Car Service City Built Trust Before Growth

When people think about successful franchise brands, they often focus on the numbers.

How many stores?

How quickly did they grow?

What is their turnover?

Yet after my conversation with Grant Brady, founder of Car Service City, I came away with a very different impression.

Their success has not been built on opening as many outlets as possible. It has been built on something far more difficult to achieve—and far easier to lose.

Trust.

Trust from customers who hand over one of their most valuable possessions. Trust from franchisees investing their savings into the business. Trust from employees expected to uphold the same standards every day.

In an industry where reputation can be destroyed by a single poor customer experience, Car Service City has demonstrated that long-term growth depends on consistently earning trust.

Here are the lessons that stood out most.

Lesson 1: Consistency Builds Confidence

Customers rarely know whether a vehicle has been serviced correctly.

They rely on trust.

That means every interaction matters—from booking the service to collecting the vehicle.

Car Service City has worked hard to ensure that customers receive a consistent experience regardless of which branch they visit. That consistency doesn’t happen by chance. It is created through documented systems, training, operational standards and continuous support across the network.

Customers return because they know what to expect.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the greatest strengths of franchising is predictability.

Customers should never have to wonder whether one franchise is better than another.

Whether you operate a coffee shop, a fitness centre or an automotive workshop, consistency becomes part of your brand promise.

Every franchisee represents every other franchisee.

Lesson 2: Your Brand Is Only as Strong as Your Franchisees

Many franchisors spend enormous amounts on marketing.

But marketing only creates expectations.

Operations fulfil them.

Car Service City understands that every franchisee becomes the face of the brand within their local community.

That means recruiting carefully, supporting consistently and maintaining standards without compromising relationships.

Strong franchise systems don’t simply build great businesses.

They build capable business owners.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the questions I often ask franchisors is:

“If your newest franchisee opened tomorrow without you being present, would your customers receive the same experience?”

If the answer is no, the issue isn’t the franchisee.

It’s the system.

Great franchisors don’t rely on exceptional individuals.

They create exceptional systems.

Lesson 3: Reputation Is Built Through Thousands of Small Promises

Customers don’t usually judge businesses on one dramatic event.

They judge them on dozens of seemingly ordinary moments.

Was the booking handled professionally?

Was the quotation transparent?

Did the work happen when promised?

Were unexpected costs explained?

Did staff communicate honestly?

Car Service City’s reputation has been built by paying attention to these everyday interactions.

Trust is earned one customer at a time.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Many businesses chase viral marketing campaigns.

Far fewer invest the same energy in making every customer interaction remarkable.

Brand reputation isn’t built primarily through advertising.

It’s built through operational excellence.

Marketing may win the first customer.

Trust wins the second, third and tenth.

Lesson 4: Growth Should Never Come at the Expense of Standards

As franchise networks expand, maintaining quality becomes increasingly challenging.

More franchisees.

More staff.

More locations.

More complexity.

Successful franchisors recognise that expansion requires even greater discipline.

Every new location should strengthen the brand—not dilute it.

Car Service City’s approach reflects an understanding that sustainable growth depends on protecting the standards that made the business successful in the first place.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the biggest risks in franchising is confusing expansion with success.

Opening twenty new stores means very little if customer satisfaction declines.

I’ve seen businesses become so focused on selling franchises that they lose sight of supporting the people already in the network.

Growth is exciting.

Consistency is what keeps customers coming back.

Lesson 5: Leadership Is About Support, Not Control

One of the themes that resonated throughout our discussion was the importance of partnership.

Successful franchise relationships are not built on command and control.

They are built on mutual respect.

Franchisees need guidance.

They need coaching.

They need someone who can challenge them while genuinely wanting them to succeed.

The best franchisors understand that support isn’t a cost.

It’s an investment in the long-term health of the network.

Franchise Coaches Insight

This is something I speak about regularly in our Franchise Manager Masterclasses.

Field support should never be reduced to ticking boxes.

The best field consultants combine operational expertise with coaching skills.

They ask thoughtful questions.

They listen.

They help franchisees solve problems.

Compliance is important.

But coaching creates commitment.

Lesson 6: Trust Takes Years to Build and Minutes to Lose

Perhaps the greatest lesson from Car Service City’s journey is that trust must be protected every day.

Every customer interaction.

Every franchise visit.

Every operational decision.

Every new franchisee.

Every marketing campaign.

Each one either strengthens or weakens the brand.

Trust isn’t something a business earns once.

It’s something it continually earns.

Franchise Coaches Insight

In today’s world, customers have more choice than ever before.

Products can be copied.

Prices can be matched.

Technology can be replicated.

Trust remains one of the few genuine competitive advantages.

The franchisors who recognise this are often the ones that endure.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on Car Service City’s approach, I believe every franchisor should consider these questions:

  • Are our customers receiving a consistent experience across every location?
  • Do our systems make consistency easy—or dependent on exceptional people?
  • Are we recruiting franchisees who strengthen our brand?
  • Are our field visits building trust as well as accountability?
  • Are we growing without compromising our standards?
  • What does our brand promise look like in practice every single day?

Final Thoughts

Car Service City’s story isn’t really about vehicle servicing.

It’s about creating confidence.

Confidence that customers will receive honest advice.

Confidence that franchisees will be supported.

Confidence that the same standards will be maintained across every branch.

In many ways, that’s the essence of successful franchising.

Growth matters.

Profitability matters.

Innovation matters.

But none of those things can replace trust.

And perhaps that’s the greatest lesson of all.

Coming next: What Chicken Bar’s Founder Learned from a Franchise Disaster. This article explores how early mistakes, transparency, and disciplined systems shaped a stronger franchise business.

Lessons from Failure
CEO Interview
Chicken Bar logo

What Chicken Bar’s Founder Learned from a Franchise Disaster

Every successful franchise has a story.

Some begin with rapid growth.

Others begin with a brilliant idea.

Chicken Bar’s story is different.

It begins with failure.

During my conversation with the Asanda Maqabuka, founder, what struck me most wasn’t the success of the business today—it was the willingness to speak openly about the mistakes made along the way.

In a world where entrepreneurs often present polished success stories, there was something refreshing about hearing someone acknowledge that they had franchised too early, made costly decisions, and learned difficult lessons through experience.

Ironically, those early failures became the foundation of a much stronger franchise business.

For me, this interview wasn’t simply about Chicken Bar.

It was about what every franchisor can learn from getting it wrong before getting it right.

Lesson 1: Franchising Doesn’t Fix a Business

One of the biggest misconceptions among entrepreneurs is that franchising is the solution to business challenges.

It isn’t.

If the business model isn’t profitable, consistent or well documented, franchising simply multiplies those weaknesses across multiple locations.

Chicken Bar’s founder spoke candidly about the dangers of expanding before the business was truly ready. Looking back, there was a clear recognition that enthusiasm had outpaced preparation.

That honesty takes courage.

Franchise Coaches Insight

This is something I encounter regularly.

Business owners often tell me,

“Our store is busy. We think it’s time to franchise.”

My response is usually another question.

“Can someone else achieve the same results without you being there every day?”

If the answer is no, then the business isn’t franchise-ready yet.

Success should be replicable.

Not founder-dependent.

Lesson 2: Systems Are Built Through Experience

It’s easy to underestimate the importance of systems until something goes wrong.

Every operational mistake reveals another gap.

Every customer complaint highlights another process that needs refining.

Chicken Bar’s journey demonstrates that robust systems are rarely created in a boardroom.

They’re developed through years of operating, testing, adapting and improving.

Every challenge becomes another opportunity to strengthen the business.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Operations manuals don’t create systems.

Experience creates systems.

The manual simply captures what has already been proven to work.

One of the biggest mistakes I see is businesses writing manuals before they’ve truly tested their operations.

Documentation should follow experience—not replace it.

Lesson 3: Transparency Builds Stronger Franchise Relationships

One aspect of the conversation that particularly resonated with me was the importance of honesty.

Rather than presenting the business as perfect, the founder acknowledged mistakes, challenges and lessons learned.

That same philosophy extends to franchise relationships.

Transparency creates trust.

Franchisees don’t expect perfection.

They expect honesty.

When franchisors communicate openly about challenges and involve franchisees in finding solutions, relationships become stronger rather than weaker.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Some franchisors worry that admitting mistakes will undermine their credibility.

In my experience, the opposite is usually true.

People trust leaders who are honest enough to admit what they don’t know and confident enough to keep improving.

Transparency isn’t weakness.

It’s leadership.

Lesson 4: Growth Should Never Outrun Capability

It’s tempting to measure success by the number of stores.

But every additional outlet increases complexity.

More franchisees.

More staff.

More suppliers.

More operational support.

More opportunities for inconsistency.

Chicken Bar’s experience reinforces an important principle:

Expansion should only happen when the organisation has the capacity to support it properly.

Growing faster than your support infrastructure can cope with benefits nobody.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One question every franchisor should ask before approving another location is:

“Can we support this franchisee as well as we support our existing ones?”

If the answer is no, opening another store may actually weaken the network.

Growth should strengthen the system—not stretch it beyond its limits.

Lesson 5: Your Culture Determines Your Future

Throughout our discussion, it became clear that Chicken Bar wasn’t simply focused on selling food.

It was focused on building a culture.

Culture influences how staff treat customers.

How franchisees treat employees.

How problems are resolved.

How standards are maintained.

Systems tell people what to do.

Culture influences whether they actually do it.

The two must work together.

Franchise Coaches Insight

I’ve often said that franchising is ultimately about people.

You can write procedures.

You can introduce technology.

You can measure performance.

But if your culture encourages shortcuts, poor communication or blame, those systems will eventually fail.

Healthy franchise systems are built on healthy relationships.

Lesson 6: Failure Can Become Your Greatest Competitive Advantage

Perhaps the biggest lesson I took from this interview was that failure isn’t necessarily the end of the story.

Handled well, it becomes the beginning of a much stronger one.

The businesses that survive are rarely those that avoid mistakes altogether.

They’re the ones that learn faster than everyone else.

Chicken Bar’s willingness to reflect honestly on its early journey has helped shape a more disciplined, resilient franchise system.

That’s something worth respecting.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Some of the best franchisors I’ve worked with have experienced significant setbacks.

What distinguishes them isn’t perfection.

It’s humility.

They keep learning.

They keep listening.

They keep improving.

In franchising, that mindset is often a greater competitive advantage than any product or marketing campaign.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on Chicken Bar’s journey, I believe every franchisor should ask themselves:

  • Is our business genuinely ready to franchise?
  • Are our systems proven through experience or simply written down?
  • Do we communicate openly with franchisees?
  • Is our support infrastructure keeping pace with our growth?
  • Are we building a culture that encourages accountability and learning?
  • What mistakes have made our business stronger?

Final Thoughts

One of the reasons I enjoy interviewing founders is that the most valuable lessons rarely come from their successes.

They come from the moments they would happily avoid if they had the chance.

Chicken Bar’s story reminds us that failure isn’t something to hide.

It’s something to learn from.

Every franchisor will make mistakes.

Every business will encounter setbacks.

The question isn’t whether challenges will come.

The question is what we choose to do with them.

Chicken Bar chose to learn.

And because of that, the business that exists today is far stronger than the one that existed when the journey first began.

For me, that’s one of the most powerful lessons any franchisor can take away.

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Franchisee Mindset
CEO Interview
OBC logo

How OBC Builds Entrepreneurs Instead of Employees

When people talk about successful franchise systems, the conversation often centres around products, marketing or expansion.

But after my conversation with CEO Tony Da Fonseca at OBC, I left thinking about something entirely different.

Entrepreneurship.

One of the strongest messages throughout our discussion was that franchisees shouldn’t think like managers.

They should think like business owners.

That might sound obvious, but there is an important distinction.

Managers often focus on running today’s operation.

Entrepreneurs think about growing tomorrow’s business.

The most successful franchisees don’t simply follow systems—they embrace ownership, look for opportunities and take responsibility for the success of their businesses.

That philosophy appears to sit at the heart of OBC’s approach.

Here are the lessons that stood out most to me.

Lesson 1: Franchisees Need an Owner’s Mindset

Owning a franchise doesn’t automatically make someone an entrepreneur.

Some franchisees wait for Head Office to solve every problem.

Others take ownership.

Throughout our conversation, it became clear that OBC wants franchisees to think beyond daily operations. They encourage franchisees to understand their numbers, know their local communities and actively look for ways to improve performance rather than waiting to be told what to do.

That mindset creates stronger businesses.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the biggest shifts I try to help franchisees make is moving from asking:

“What should I do?”

to asking:

“What opportunities am I missing?”

Franchising provides the systems.

Entrepreneurship provides the drive.

The most successful franchisees combine both.

Lesson 2: Community Matters More Than Geography

One of the themes that emerged during our discussion was the importance of understanding the local market.

Every community is different.

The demographics differ.

Shopping habits differ.

Customer expectations differ.

Successful franchisees don’t simply unlock the doors every morning and hope customers arrive.

They become part of the community they serve.

They understand local events.

They build relationships.

They earn trust.

  • Who are the schools nearby?
  • Which businesses could become referral partners?
  • What community events could you support?
  • Who are your most loyal customers?

Franchise Coaches Insight

I’ve often seen franchisees focus almost exclusively on the four walls of their business.

The strongest operators spend just as much time outside them.

Ask yourself:

Local engagement isn’t an optional extra.

It’s part of building a sustainable business.

Lesson 3: Systems Create Freedom

Some people believe franchise systems limit creativity.

I see them differently.

Good systems remove uncertainty.

When operational processes are consistent, franchisees spend less time solving routine problems and more time building relationships with customers, developing staff and growing their businesses.

OBC’s approach reinforced the idea that systems aren’t there to restrict entrepreneurs.

They’re there to support them.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the misconceptions about franchising is that following systems means giving up independence.

In reality, systems free franchisees to focus on the things that matter most.

The best systems don’t create robots.

They create consistency.

And consistency builds trust.

Lesson 4: Growth Starts With Strong Unit Economics

No franchise network can thrive if individual franchisees aren’t profitable.

That sounds obvious, but it’s surprising how often growth becomes the priority while franchisee profitability takes a back seat.

The conversation with OBC reinforced the importance of helping franchisees build healthy, profitable businesses before thinking about expansion.

A successful franchise network is simply a collection of successful individual businesses.

Franchise Coaches Insight

When I mentor franchisors, I often ask:

“Would you want your son or daughter to invest in one of your franchises?”

If there’s any hesitation, there’s work to do.

Healthy franchise systems don’t measure success by the number of outlets.

They measure success by the number of profitable franchisees.

Lesson 5: Leadership Is About Developing People

Another theme that stood out was the role of leadership.

Franchising isn’t simply about opening stores.

It’s about developing people who can lead those stores successfully.

That means investing in training.

Providing coaching.

Having difficult conversations when necessary.

Celebrating success.

Supporting people through challenges.

Strong franchise systems don’t grow because they have great products.

They grow because they develop great people.

Franchise Coaches Insight

After nearly three decades in franchising, one thing has become very clear to me.

Businesses grow at the speed of their people.

You can invest in technology.

You can improve marketing.

You can negotiate better supplier deals.

But if you don’t invest in leadership development, growth eventually slows.

People remain the greatest competitive advantage any franchise system has.

Lesson 6: Entrepreneurship Thrives Within Accountability

Entrepreneurship doesn’t mean everyone does things their own way.

Successful franchisees balance initiative with discipline.

They look for opportunities while still protecting the consistency of the brand.

That balance is one of franchising’s greatest strengths.

The system provides the framework.

The franchisee brings the energy.

Together, they create something much stronger than either could achieve alone.

Franchise Coaches Insight

The best franchise relationships aren’t built on control.

They’re built on accountability.

Great franchisors don’t need to micromanage.

They create clear expectations, provide strong support and trust franchisees to run their businesses professionally.

When accountability and entrepreneurship work together, remarkable things happen.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on my conversation with OBC, I believe every franchisor should ask:

  • Are we developing business owners or simply managing franchisees?
  • Do our franchisees understand their local markets?
  • Are our systems enabling success or creating unnecessary complexity?
  • Are profitable franchisees our primary measure of success?
  • How much time do we invest in developing leadership across our network?
  • Are we encouraging initiative while maintaining brand consistency?

Final Thoughts

One of the biggest myths about franchising is that success comes from having the best concept.

Concepts matter.

Systems matter.

Marketing matters.

But ultimately, franchise success comes down to people.

OBC’s philosophy serves as a reminder that the strongest franchise networks are built by developing entrepreneurs, not creating dependence.

When franchisees think like owners, take responsibility for their businesses and remain committed to the systems that make the brand successful, everyone benefits.

For me, that’s one of the defining characteristics of great franchising.

It’s not about creating followers.

It’s about building confident, capable business owners who are equipped to succeed within a proven framework.

Coming next: Why Cash Converters Still Believes in Owner-Operators. This article explores why owner involvement remains one of the strongest predictors of franchise success, even as businesses become larger and more sophisticated.

Ownership & Trust
CEO Interview

Why Cash Converters Still Believes in Owner-Operators

Lessons from my interview with Richard Forshaw, CEO of Cash Converters Southern Africa

When I interviewed Richard Mukheibir, CEO of Cash Converters Southern Africa, I expected our conversation to focus on retail trends, second-hand goods and financial services.

Instead, we found ourselves discussing something far more fundamental.

Ownership.

In an era where many businesses are becoming increasingly corporate, Richard spoke passionately about the value of owner-operated businesses and why engaged franchisees continue to outperform absentee owners.

It was a reminder that while systems, technology and marketing are all important, they can never fully replace the commitment of an owner who treats the business as if every customer, every sale and every decision matters.

Throughout my career in franchising, I’ve seen this repeatedly.

The most successful franchisees aren’t necessarily the smartest or the most experienced.

They’re the ones who genuinely care.

They know their customers by name.

They understand their numbers.

They notice small problems before they become large ones.

And they take personal responsibility for the success of their business.

Here are some of the biggest lessons I took away from my conversation with Richard.

Lesson 1: Nobody Cares Like an Owner

One of the strongest messages from our discussion was that owner involvement remains one of the greatest predictors of business success.

An owner notices details.

They see opportunities.

They identify waste.

They build relationships.

While managers play an essential role, there is often a different level of commitment when someone’s own investment, reputation and future are tied to the outcome.

That ownership mindset influences every aspect of the business.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One question I often ask franchisors is:

“Are you building businesses that need constant supervision, or businesses that owners are proud to lead?”

The answer usually determines the long-term strength of the franchise network.

People work differently when they have ownership.

Not just financially.

Emotionally.

Lesson 2: Trust Is Your Most Valuable Asset

Cash Converters operates in an industry where trust is everything.

Customers are buying pre-owned goods.

They’re selling valuables.

They’re applying for loans.

Every interaction requires confidence in the brand.

Richard spoke about the importance of maintaining ethical standards and ensuring customers feel treated fairly every time they enter a store.

Trust isn’t simply part of the business.

It is the business.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Every franchise brand operates on trust.

Whether you’re selling coffee, repairing cars or providing financial services, customers choose businesses they believe will do the right thing.

Brand trust is built through thousands of small interactions.

Lose it once.

And it’s incredibly difficult to recover.

Lesson 3: Technology Should Support People, Not Replace Them

Like many modern franchise systems, Cash Converters has embraced technology to improve operations and customer convenience.

But one point stood out during our discussion.

Technology works best when it strengthens human relationships rather than replacing them.

Customers still value knowledgeable staff.

They still appreciate honest advice.

They still remember great service.

Digital tools should enhance the customer experience—not remove the human element.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Many businesses become fascinated by technology.

Few stop to ask whether it actually improves the customer journey.

Technology should solve problems.

It should simplify processes.

Most importantly, it should free people to spend more time creating meaningful customer experiences.

Lesson 4: Franchisees Need Commercial Understanding

One of the recurring themes throughout our discussion was commercial awareness.

Successful franchisees understand far more than sales.

They understand margins.

Cash flow.

Stock management.

Risk.

Labour costs.

They know which numbers deserve attention and which trends require immediate action.

Business owners don’t simply work in the business.

They understand the business.

Franchise Coaches Insight

This is one of the reasons we spend so much time discussing financial literacy in our Franchise Manager Masterclasses.

Great operators don’t guess.

They measure.

The earlier franchisees understand their financial drivers, the better positioned they are to make confident decisions.

Lesson 5: Culture Cannot Be Delegated

Culture is often spoken about as though it belongs to Head Office.

It doesn’t.

Every franchisee contributes to the culture of the brand.

The way staff are treated.

The way customers are welcomed.

The standards maintained.

The decisions made under pressure.

Culture lives inside every store.

Richard’s comments reinforced the importance of finding franchisees whose values align with those of the organisation.

Skills can be taught.

Values are much harder to change.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One unsuitable franchisee can affect an entire network.

Recruitment isn’t simply about finding someone with enough money.

It’s about finding someone who represents the brand every day.

The strongest franchise systems are incredibly selective.

Not because they’re exclusive.

Because they’re protecting the culture they’ve worked so hard to build.

Lesson 6: Sustainable Growth Begins With Successful Franchisees

Throughout our conversation, one principle remained clear.

Expansion should never become more important than franchisee success.

Opening new stores is exciting.

Helping existing franchisees become more profitable is far more valuable.

Healthy franchise systems are built one successful franchisee at a time.

Growth becomes sustainable when every new location strengthens the network rather than stretching it.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the healthiest questions a franchisor can ask is:

“If we stopped selling franchises tomorrow, would our existing franchisees still be thriving?”

If the answer is yes, you’ve probably built something worth expanding.

If not, growth isn’t the priority.

Strengthening the existing network is.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on my interview with Richard Forshaw, I believe every franchisor should consider these questions:

  • Are we recruiting owners or investors?
  • Does our franchise model encourage personal accountability?
  • How are we protecting trust across the network?
  • Is technology improving relationships or replacing them?
  • Do our franchisees truly understand their financial performance?
  • Are we growing because our existing franchisees are succeeding?

Final Thoughts

One of the things I enjoy most about interviewing franchise leaders is discovering that the biggest lessons often have very little to do with the product itself.

My conversation with Richard Forshaw wasn’t really about buying and selling second-hand goods.

It was about ownership.

Responsibility.

Integrity.

And building businesses that people genuinely care about.

In a rapidly changing business environment, technology will continue to evolve.

Customer expectations will continue to change.

Markets will continue to shift.

But one thing remains remarkably constant.

Businesses perform best when they are led by people who think and act like owners.

Perhaps that’s why, after all these years, the owner-operator model remains one of the greatest strengths of successful franchising.


Brand & Culture
CEO Interview
Doppio Zero logo

How Doppio Collection Balances Creativity with Franchise Discipline

Lessons from my interview with Paul Christie, Founder and CEO of Doppio Collection

When I interviewed Paul Christie, Founder and CEO of Doppio Collection, one thing became immediately apparent.

He doesn’t see restaurants as simply places that serve food.

He sees them as experiences.

Throughout our conversation, we spoke about hospitality, design, culture, innovation and the challenge of maintaining a premium customer experience while growing a franchise network.

It struck me that Doppio Collection has managed to achieve something many franchise systems struggle with.

It has retained the personality and creativity of an independent café while building the systems and discipline required to scale successfully.

For many entrepreneurs, this feels like an impossible balance.

Can you create systems without becoming ordinary?

Can you standardise without losing authenticity?

Can you franchise without sacrificing what made customers fall in love with the brand in the first place?

Paul’s journey suggests the answer is yes—but only if you’re prepared to be disciplined about what should remain consistent and flexible about what can evolve.

Here are the lessons that stood out most from our conversation.

Lesson 1: Protect the Brand, Not Just the Business

Many businesses focus on growing revenue.

Paul spoke about protecting the brand.

Every new restaurant becomes another representation of everything the brand stands for.

The menu matters.

The coffee matters.

The service matters.

The atmosphere matters.

But above all, the customer should feel that they’re experiencing the same brand values, regardless of which location they visit.

Growth should never dilute what made the business successful.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the biggest risks in franchising is assuming customers only notice the product.

They notice everything.

The welcome.

The music.

The cleanliness.

The staff interactions.

The energy in the room.

Customers remember how a business made them feel.

That emotional experience becomes part of your brand.

Lesson 2: Creativity Needs Structure

Restaurants are creative businesses.

Menus change.

Food trends evolve.

Customer expectations shift.

Yet creativity without discipline quickly becomes inconsistency.

Paul explained how innovation needs to operate within a clear framework so that franchisees can introduce improvements without confusing customers or weakening the brand.

Innovation should strengthen consistency—not replace it.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Many franchisors worry that systems limit creativity.

I’ve found the opposite.

The best systems provide a safe foundation for innovation.

When the fundamentals are consistent, businesses have the confidence to improve without losing their identity.

Great brands evolve.

They don’t reinvent themselves every six months.

Lesson 3: Hospitality Is Built Through People

One of the strongest messages from our discussion was that hospitality isn’t something you can automate.

Beautiful interiors attract customers once.

Great people bring them back.

Training therefore becomes far more than teaching staff how to perform tasks.

It’s about developing people who genuinely enjoy creating memorable customer experiences.

Culture becomes visible in every interaction.

Franchise Coaches Insight

In franchising, systems can standardise operations.

They cannot manufacture warmth.

The strongest brands recruit for attitude first and train for skill second.

Technical competence matters.

But customers rarely remember technical competence.

They remember how they were treated.

Lesson 4: Company-Owned Stores Keep You Connected

Like many successful franchise businesses, Doppio Collection has continued operating company-owned stores alongside franchised locations.

These stores serve an important purpose.

They allow new products to be tested.

Operational improvements to be refined.

Technology to be evaluated.

Training methods to be developed.

Most importantly, they ensure Head Office continues to experience the realities of daily operations.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One challenge some mature franchise systems face is becoming disconnected from operational reality.

Corporate stores help franchisors remain practitioners rather than observers.

It’s difficult to coach franchisees effectively if you no longer understand the practical challenges they face every day.

The strongest franchisors never stop learning from their own operations.

Lesson 5: Franchisees Are Partners in the Brand

One of the themes I enjoyed most throughout my interview with Paul was his respect for franchisees.

Successful franchisees aren’t simply operators.

They’re ambassadors.

They invest financially.

They invest emotionally.

They build relationships within their communities.

When franchisors genuinely value those contributions, collaboration becomes much stronger.

Partnership creates better businesses than control ever will.

Franchise Coaches Insight

I’ve often seen franchisors unintentionally create an “us versus them” relationship with franchisees.

That mindset rarely produces exceptional results.

The healthiest franchise systems recognise that franchisors and franchisees ultimately want the same thing.

Satisfied customers.

Profitable businesses.

A stronger brand.

When those objectives remain aligned, everyone benefits.

Lesson 6: Sustainable Growth Requires Patience

Perhaps the biggest lesson I took away from our conversation was that enduring brands don’t chase every opportunity.

They choose the right opportunities.

Every new location should strengthen the business.

Every franchisee should reinforce the culture.

Every operational decision should protect the long-term reputation of the brand.

Patience may slow expansion in the short term.

It often accelerates success in the long term.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the questions I encourage franchisors to ask before opening another location is:

“Will this decision strengthen the brand five years from now?”

If the answer isn’t a confident yes, it’s worth waiting.

Growth creates opportunity.

Disciplined growth creates legacy.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on my interview with Paul Christie, I believe every franchisor should consider these questions:

  • What aspects of our customer experience should never change?
  • Are our systems supporting creativity or suppressing it?
  • Are we investing enough in developing hospitality and leadership skills?
  • Do we remain closely connected to day-to-day operations?
  • Do our franchisees feel like partners or simply licence holders?
  • Are we expanding because we’re ready—or because we’re impatient?

Final Thoughts

One of the most interesting aspects of my conversation with Paul Christie was recognising that successful franchising isn’t about removing personality from a business.

It’s about protecting the qualities that made customers love the brand while creating the operational discipline needed to reproduce that experience consistently.

Doppio Collection demonstrates that creativity and consistency are not opposing forces.

They complement one another.

When supported by strong leadership, thoughtful systems and a genuine commitment to hospitality, they become a powerful competitive advantage.

For me, that’s one of the defining lessons from our conversation.

The strongest franchise brands don’t choose between creativity and discipline.

They master both.

Operational Excellence
CEO Interview
Auto Magic logo

How Automagic Built a Franchise Around Operational Excellence

Lessons from my interview with Hein Scheffer, CEO of Auto Magic

When I interviewed Hein Scheffer, CEO of Auto Magic, I expected our conversation to revolve around panel beating, insurance work and vehicle repairs.

Instead, we spent much of our time talking about systems.

Not exciting systems.

Not complicated systems.

Simply the kind of systems that quietly make a business exceptional.

After founding Auto Magic in the late 1990s, Hein recognised a gap in the market for high-quality, non-structural vehicle repairs. Rather than copying the traditional panel-beating model, he spent years refining processes, developing technology and building operating systems before expanding the franchise network.

That conversation reinforced something I’ve believed for many years.

Customers don’t see systems.

They experience the results of good systems.

They notice whether promises are kept.

Whether repairs are completed on time.

Whether communication is professional.

Whether every branch delivers the same standard.

Operational excellence may not be glamorous.

But it is often the difference between an average franchise and an exceptional one.

Here are the lessons that stood out most from my interview with Hein.

Lesson 1: Build the System Before You Build the Network

One of the things I admire most about Hein’s journey is that he didn’t rush into franchising.

Before expanding, Auto Magic spent years refining its operating model, developing electronic management systems and perfecting repair processes. Growth came after the model had been tested—not before.

That discipline laid the foundation for a franchise system that could deliver consistency across multiple locations.

Franchise Coaches Insight

This is one of the biggest mistakes I see businesses make.

They become excited about franchising before they’ve perfected the business.

Franchising magnifies everything.

Strong systems become stronger.

Weak systems become bigger problems.

Before you franchise, ask yourself:

“Have we truly built a repeatable business, or have we simply built a successful business?”

Those are very different things.

Lesson 2: Technology Should Support Consistency

Throughout our discussion, Hein spoke about the importance of technology—not as a replacement for people, but as a tool for improving consistency.

Auto Magic invested in electronic job management systems that allow repairs to be monitored from start to finish, helping improve turnaround times, quality control and communication with insurers and customers.

Technology isn’t valuable because it’s modern.

It’s valuable because it makes the customer experience more predictable.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Many businesses invest in technology because everyone else is.

The better question is:

“Does this make life easier for customers, franchisees and staff?”

Technology should simplify.

Not complicate.

The best systems work quietly in the background.

Customers may never notice them.

But they’ll certainly notice when they’re missing.

Lesson 3: Excellence Is Built Through Thousands of Small Decisions

One of the themes that emerged throughout my conversation with Hein was attention to detail.

Customers don’t usually judge a business by one spectacular moment.

They judge it by dozens of small interactions.

Was the quotation accurate?

Were they kept informed?

Was the repair completed when promised?

Did the staff communicate professionally?

Was the vehicle returned in excellent condition?

Operational excellence is simply the accumulation of consistently good decisions.

Franchise Coaches Insight

I often remind franchisors that customers don’t experience strategy.

They experience execution.

The strongest brands aren’t necessarily those with the biggest marketing budgets.

They’re the ones that consistently deliver on their promises.

Every customer interaction either strengthens trust or weakens it.

Lesson 4: Your Franchisees Are Your Reputation

Auto Magic’s success depends on every franchise delivering the same quality and service.

A single poor repair doesn’t only affect one customer.

It affects the reputation of the entire network.

That means selecting franchisees carefully, training them thoroughly and supporting them continuously.

Consistency isn’t created through inspection alone.

It’s created through partnership.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Every franchisee represents your brand.

One exceptional franchisee strengthens the network.

One poor franchisee weakens it.

Recruitment isn’t simply about finding people with capital.

It’s about finding people who care about quality as much as you do.

Technical skills can be developed.

Commitment is much harder to teach.

Lesson 5: Leadership Creates Culture

As we spoke, it became clear that operational excellence starts long before a customer walks through the door.

It begins with leadership.

The standards leaders accept eventually become the standards everyone else follows.

If shortcuts become acceptable, quality declines.

If accountability becomes the norm, excellence becomes part of the culture.

Culture isn’t created by slogans.

It’s created by behaviour.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the questions I regularly ask franchisors is:

“What behaviours are you rewarding?”

Whatever leaders consistently recognise eventually becomes part of the organisation’s culture.

Great leaders don’t simply manage operations.

They shape expectations.

Lesson 6: Continuous Improvement Never Ends

Perhaps the biggest lesson from my conversation with Hein was that operational excellence isn’t a destination.

It’s a process.

Markets change.

Customer expectations change.

Technology changes.

Businesses that stop improving eventually fall behind.

The strongest franchise systems never assume they’ve arrived.

They remain curious.

They continue learning.

They keep refining.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the characteristics I admire most in successful franchise leaders is humility.

They don’t believe they’ve built the perfect business.

They believe they’re building a better business every year.

That mindset creates innovation.

It also creates longevity.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on my interview with Hein Scheffer, I believe every franchisor should ask:

  • Are our systems truly repeatable?
  • Does technology simplify our operations?
  • Are we delivering consistency across every location?
  • Are we recruiting franchisees who protect our reputation?
  • What behaviours are our leaders reinforcing?
  • How are we improving our business this year?

Final Thoughts

When people look at successful franchise brands, they often notice the logo, the marketing or the number of outlets.

What they don’t always see are the systems working quietly behind the scenes.

My conversation with Hein Scheffer reminded me that sustainable franchise success isn’t built on dramatic breakthroughs.

It’s built on disciplined execution.

Every process.

Every customer interaction.

Every field visit.

Every leadership decision.

Auto Magic’s journey demonstrates that operational excellence doesn’t happen by accident.

It happens because leaders commit to building systems that allow ordinary people to deliver extraordinary consistency.

For me, that’s one of the most valuable lessons any franchisor can learn.

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Culture & Community
CEO Interview

How PNA Built a Family Culture Across More Than 130 Stores

Lessons from my interview with Pierre du Toit, Head of Franchising at PNA

When I interviewed Pierre du Toit, Head of Franchising at PNA, I expected our conversation to focus on retail strategy, store expansion and the operational realities of managing one of South Africa’s best-known franchise brands.

Instead, we spent much of our time talking about people.

Not just customers.

Not just franchisees.

People.

How to support them.

How to challenge them.

How to build relationships that last for decades rather than years.

It quickly became apparent that PNA’s success hasn’t simply been built on selling stationery, books and educational products. It has been built on creating a franchise network where relationships matter, franchisees are supported, and the culture of the business is protected as carefully as the brand itself.

As franchise systems grow, maintaining that culture becomes increasingly difficult. More stores mean more franchisees, more employees and more complexity. Yet Pierre spoke about the importance of ensuring that franchisees never feel like they’re simply another number in a growing organisation.

That conversation reinforced something I’ve believed throughout my own career in franchising.

The strongest franchise systems don’t just build businesses.

They build communities.

Here are the lessons that stood out most from my interview with Pierre.

Lesson 1: Franchisees Should Feel Like Partners, Not Customers

One of the strongest themes throughout my conversation with Pierre was partnership.

It’s easy for franchisors to unintentionally create a relationship where Head Office issues instructions and franchisees simply follow them.

But successful franchise systems operate differently.

Franchisees invest far more than money.

They invest their time, their reputation, their families and often their life savings.

That deserves more than a transactional relationship.

It deserves a genuine partnership.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the healthiest questions every franchisor should ask is:

“If I were one of my franchisees, would I feel supported?”

Support doesn’t mean removing accountability.

It means ensuring franchisees know they have someone to call when challenges arise.

The strongest franchise relationships are built on trust, not fear.

Lesson 2: Culture Is Your Greatest Competitive Advantage

Products change.

Markets evolve.

Competitors emerge.

Culture is far harder to replicate.

Pierre spoke about maintaining a culture where franchisees feel connected to the business and to one another.

That sense of belonging becomes increasingly valuable as franchise networks expand.

Culture influences how people communicate.

How problems are solved.

How franchisees interact with Head Office.

Ultimately, it influences how customers experience the brand.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Many organisations talk about culture.

Far fewer deliberately protect it.

Culture isn’t created during annual conferences.

It’s built during everyday conversations.

Every phone call.

Every field visit.

Every difficult discussion.

Leadership either strengthens culture—or weakens it.

Lesson 3: Consistency Creates Customer Confidence

Customers choose franchise brands because they know what to expect.

Whether they’re buying school stationery in Johannesburg or office supplies in Cape Town, they expect the same standard of service, presentation and professionalism.

That consistency doesn’t happen by accident.

It requires clear systems, ongoing communication and continuous operational support.

Customers trust businesses that consistently deliver on their promises.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the biggest advantages franchising offers is predictability.

Customers shouldn’t have to wonder whether one branch is better than another.

Every franchisee represents every other franchisee.

Consistency isn’t restrictive.

It’s reassuring.

Lesson 4: Great Franchisees Never Stop Learning

Throughout my discussion with Pierre, it became clear that successful franchisees remain curious.

Retail changes constantly.

Customer behaviour changes.

Technology changes.

The strongest franchisees continue adapting while remaining true to the core principles of the brand.

Learning isn’t something that finishes after induction training.

It’s a lifelong commitment.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the things I enjoy most about working with franchisors is seeing businesses that never stop improving.

The moment a franchise system believes it has nothing left to learn, it begins falling behind.

The strongest networks invest continuously in education, coaching and leadership development.

Learning creates resilience.

Lesson 5: Growth Should Strengthen Relationships, Not Weaken Them

As franchise systems expand, maintaining personal relationships becomes more difficult.

More stores often mean more administration, more complexity and more layers of management.

Pierre spoke about the importance of ensuring franchisees continue feeling connected to the business regardless of its size.

That requires deliberate effort.

Communication cannot become less personal simply because the organisation becomes larger.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the greatest challenges facing growing franchise systems is remaining accessible.

Franchisees shouldn’t feel they’re speaking to a corporation.

They should feel they’re speaking to partners.

Growth changes structure.

It should never change commitment.

Lesson 6: Leadership Is About Building People

Perhaps the biggest lesson I took away from my interview with Pierre was that franchising is ultimately a people business.

Systems matter.

Products matter.

Technology matters.

But people determine whether those systems succeed.

Strong franchise leaders develop confident franchisees.

Confident franchisees develop strong teams.

Strong teams create exceptional customer experiences.

Leadership creates a ripple effect throughout the entire organisation.

Franchise Coaches Insight

I’ve often said that businesses grow at the speed of their people.

The same is true of franchise systems.

The strongest franchisors don’t simply invest in stores.

They invest in people.

Because when people grow, businesses grow with them.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on my interview with Pierre du Toit, I believe every franchisor should ask themselves:

  • Do our franchisees genuinely feel like partners?
  • How are we protecting our culture as the network grows?
  • Are customers receiving a consistent experience across every location?
  • Are we investing enough in learning and development?
  • Are we maintaining close relationships as we expand?
  • What are we doing to develop stronger franchise leaders?

Final Thoughts

One of the biggest takeaways from my conversation with Pierre du Toit was that successful franchise systems aren’t defined solely by the number of stores they operate.

They’re defined by the strength of the relationships they build.

PNA has demonstrated that it’s possible to grow a national franchise network while maintaining a culture built on partnership, trust and shared purpose.

That’s no small achievement.

In an increasingly competitive retail environment, products can be copied.

Prices can be matched.

Technology can be replicated.

But a culture where franchisees genuinely feel supported, valued and connected is far more difficult to imitate.

For me, that’s one of the defining lessons from my conversation with Pierre.

The strongest franchise brands don’t just build successful stores.

They build successful people.

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Site Selection
CEO Interview

The Biggest Site Selection Mistakes Franchisors Make

Lessons from my interview with Stephen Walters, Founder of Galaxy Retail

By Elana Koral, Founder, Franchise Coaches

When I interviewed Stephen Walters, Founder of Galaxy Retail, I expected our conversation to centre on shopping centres, demographics and retail property.

We certainly discussed those topics.

But it didn’t take long for me to realise that Stephen wasn’t really talking about buildings.

He was talking about people.

For many franchisors, site selection begins with a map. They look for available premises, compare rental rates, study foot traffic figures and hope they’ve found the perfect location.

Stephen challenged almost every one of those assumptions.

He argued that great site selection has very little to do with finding the busiest shopping centre and everything to do with understanding why customers are there in the first place.

It was a refreshing reminder that data alone doesn’t make good decisions.

Understanding customers does.

Throughout my own career, I’ve seen franchisors invest millions in locations that looked perfect on paper but never performed as expected. I’ve also seen relatively small, unassuming sites become some of the strongest performers in a network.

The difference was rarely the building.

It was almost always the customer.

One comment from Stephen stayed with me throughout our conversation:

“Not all feet are created equally.”

Those six words perfectly capture one of the biggest mistakes franchisors make when expanding.

Here are the lessons that stood out most from my interview with Stephen.

Lesson 1: Stop Looking for Foot Traffic. Start Looking for Customer Missions.

One of the most valuable concepts Stephen introduced was customer missions.

People don’t visit shopping centres simply because they’re shopping.

They arrive with a purpose.

Some are collecting groceries.

Some are meeting friends.

Some are collecting children from activities.

Others are rushing in to buy one item before heading somewhere else.

Understanding those missions is far more valuable than simply counting how many people walk past your store.

A centre filled with thousands of people isn’t necessarily a good location if very few of those people have a reason to buy your product.

  • Who is my customer?
  • Why are they here?
  • Does this location naturally fit their journey?

Franchise Coaches Insight

I often hear franchisors say,

“That centre has fantastic foot traffic.”

My response is usually,

“Whose feet?”

A hundred ideal customers are worth far more than a thousand people who have no intention of buying from you.

Before evaluating any site, ask yourself:

Those questions are often far more valuable than traffic counts.

Lesson 2: Data Should Guide Decisions—Not Replace Observation

Stephen spoke extensively about the increasing availability of sophisticated location data.

Today’s businesses can access demographic information, income profiles, spending patterns and movement data that would have been unimaginable twenty years ago.

That information is incredibly valuable.

But it isn’t enough.

Stephen strongly believes that every franchisor should still visit the site personally.

Sit in the centre.

Watch people.

Observe where they park.

Notice which entrances they use.

See where congestion forms.

Watch who walks past your proposed location.

Data tells you what is happening.

Observation often tells you why.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the biggest mistakes businesses make is believing spreadsheets tell the whole story.

They don’t.

Some of the best location decisions I’ve seen have come from simply spending a few hours watching customers.

Sometimes what you observe completely changes what the data appears to suggest.

The best decisions combine analysis with curiosity.

Lesson 3: Bigger Stores Don’t Always Create Bigger Profits

Another point Stephen challenged was the assumption that larger premises automatically produce better results.

Larger stores generally come with:

  • Higher rentals
  • Increased staffing costs
  • More stock
  • Higher utility expenses
  • Greater operational complexity

Unless revenue increases significantly, those additional costs can quickly reduce profitability.

Instead of asking,

“How large can we make this store?”

Stephen encouraged businesses to ask,

“How efficiently can we use every square metre?”

Franchise Coaches Insight

I’ve seen franchisors become obsessed with opening impressive flagship stores.

Customers rarely care about square metres.

They care about convenience.

Experience.

Product availability.

Service.

Sometimes the most profitable store isn’t the biggest.

It’s the most productive.

Every square metre should justify its existence.

Lesson 4: The Role of Shopping Centres Is Changing

One of the most fascinating parts of our discussion was Stephen’s observation that retail behaviour continues to evolve.

Years ago, many retailers chose sites primarily because of major anchor tenants.

Today, customer behaviour is changing.

Online shopping has altered purchasing habits.

People make shorter visits.

They combine multiple errands into one trip.

Destination stores have become increasingly important.

Simply locating next to a large supermarket is no longer enough.

Businesses need to understand whether the customers visiting that centre are actually their customers.

Franchise Coaches Insight

Retail isn’t standing still.

Neither should franchisors.

A site that performed exceptionally well ten years ago may no longer offer the same opportunities today.

Expansion decisions should always be based on current customer behaviour—not historical assumptions.

Lesson 5: Every Expansion Strategy Should Begin With the Customer

Perhaps the biggest lesson I took away from my conversation with Stephen was that successful site selection doesn’t begin with property.

It begins with people.

Many businesses search for premises first and then hope customers will arrive.

Stephen believes the process should happen in reverse.

Understand your customer.

Understand their habits.

Understand their daily journey.

Then identify the locations that naturally fit those behaviours.

When businesses truly understand their customers, site selection becomes far more strategic.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One question every franchisor should ask before signing a lease is:

“If this shopping centre disappeared tomorrow, where would our customers go instead?”

The answer tells you far more than any demographic report.

Successful locations aren’t simply places where people gather.

They’re places where your customers naturally belong.

Lesson 6: Great Site Selection Is Both Science and Art

One of the things I appreciated most about Stephen’s perspective was that he never presented site selection as an exact science.

Yes, data matters.

Research matters.

Financial modelling matters.

But experience matters too.

Judgement matters.

Curiosity matters.

Sometimes the difference between a successful location and a poor one comes down to asking better questions.

That’s something spreadsheets alone can’t do.

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The best franchisors don’t rely solely on instinct.

Nor do they rely solely on data.

They combine evidence with experience.

They ask difficult questions.

They challenge assumptions.

They remain curious.

That’s often what separates good expansion decisions from great ones.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on my interview with Stephen Walters, I believe every franchisor should ask:

  • Do we truly understand who our customer is?
  • What mission brings them to this location?
  • Have we spent enough time observing the site ourselves?
  • Are we measuring productivity per square metre?
  • Are we relying on outdated assumptions about shopping behaviour?
  • Are we choosing a property—or are we choosing our customer?

Final Thoughts

When I sat down with Stephen Walters, Founder of Galaxy Retail, I thought we were going to talk about property.

Instead, we talked about people.

That shift in perspective completely changed the way I think about expansion.

Successful site selection isn’t about securing the cheapest rental.

It isn’t about finding the busiest shopping centre.

And it certainly isn’t about chasing the highest pedestrian count.

It’s about understanding your customer so deeply that the right location becomes obvious.

As franchisors, we often spend enormous amounts of time analysing buildings.

Stephen reminded me that perhaps we should spend even more time analysing the people who will walk through their doors.

Because, in the end, franchises don’t succeed because of great real estate.

They succeed because they’re in the right place for the right customer at the right time.

And that’s a lesson every growing franchisor should remember.

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How FreshStop Built a Convenience Brand Around Understanding Customers

Lessons from my interview with Joe Boyle, Managing Director of FreshStop

By Elana Koral, Founder, Franchise Coaches

When I interviewed Joe Boyle, Managing Director of FreshStop, I expected our conversation to focus on convenience retail, forecourts and expansion.

We certainly discussed those topics.

But what struck me most was that Joe wasn’t really talking about convenience stores.

He was talking about customers.

Throughout our conversation, he repeatedly returned to one simple idea.

Successful retailers don’t begin by asking, “What do we want to sell?”

They begin by asking, “What problem is the customer trying to solve?”

That may sound like a small distinction, but I believe it sits at the heart of every successful franchise business.

The strongest franchise brands don’t simply respond to customer behaviour.

They anticipate it.

They observe it.

And they continually adapt to meet changing customer needs.

FreshStop has grown by recognising that convenience is no longer just about location.

It’s about relevance.

Here are the lessons that stood out most from my interview with Joe.

Lesson 1: Customers Don’t Buy Products—They Solve Problems

One of the biggest insights from my conversation with Joe was that customers don’t think in categories.

They don’t wake up wanting to buy a sandwich or a coffee.

They wake up trying to solve a problem.

They’re hungry.

They’re in a hurry.

They’re travelling.

They’re picking up dinner on the way home.

Understanding that “mission” changes everything.

Rather than designing stores around products, FreshStop focuses on making it easier for customers to accomplish what they came to do.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the questions I often ask franchisors is:

“What job is the customer hiring your business to do?”

The answer is rarely your product.

It’s the outcome your customer is trying to achieve.

Businesses that understand this make better decisions about product ranges, layouts, staffing and customer experience.

Lesson 2: Convenience Is About Time, Not Distance

Many people assume convenience simply means being close to customers.

Joe challenged that assumption.

Convenience today is about reducing effort.

Can customers get in quickly?

Can they find what they need easily?

Can they pay without frustration?

Can they leave feeling that their time has been respected?

Every unnecessary delay weakens the customer experience.

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I’ve seen businesses invest heavily in beautiful stores while making simple transactions unnecessarily complicated.

Customers remember friction.

They also remember businesses that remove it.

Convenience isn’t measured in metres.

It’s measured in minutes.

Lesson 3: Retail Never Stands Still

Throughout our conversation, Joe spoke about how quickly customer expectations continue to evolve.

Shopping habits change.

Technology changes.

Product preferences change.

Businesses that assume customers will always behave as they did five years ago quickly fall behind.

The strongest retailers remain curious.

They observe.

They test.

They adapt.

Franchise Coaches Insight

One of the greatest dangers facing successful franchise systems is believing yesterday’s success guarantees tomorrow’s.

It doesn’t.

Markets evolve.

Customers evolve.

Franchisors need to evolve with them.

Continuous improvement should become part of the culture.

Lesson 4: Great Franchisees Understand Their Communities

Although FreshStop operates under one national brand, no two communities are identical.

Different neighbourhoods have different customer needs.

Different purchasing patterns.

Different peak trading times.

Successful franchisees don’t simply operate stores.

They understand the communities they serve.

That local understanding allows them to deliver a more relevant customer experience.

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One of the biggest advantages local franchisees have over corporate retailers is proximity.

They know their customers.

They hear feedback directly.

They understand local events.

The best franchisees combine national systems with local knowledge.

That’s a powerful combination.

Lesson 5: Consistency Creates Trust

Customers choose franchise brands because they know what to expect.

Whether they’re visiting a FreshStop in Johannesburg, Durban or Cape Town, they expect the same quality, cleanliness and service.

Delivering that consistency requires much more than operating procedures.

It requires strong leadership, ongoing training and a culture that values execution.

Consistency isn’t accidental.

It’s intentional.

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Customers don’t reward occasional excellence.

They reward dependable excellence.

Every interaction either reinforces trust or weakens it.

The strongest franchise systems recognise that consistency isn’t restrictive.

It’s reassuring.

Lesson 6: Growth Must Never Outpace Capability

One message that came through clearly during my interview with Joe was the importance of disciplined growth.

Opening more stores is exciting.

Supporting existing franchisees is essential.

Healthy expansion only happens when systems, people and operational support grow alongside the network.

Sustainable growth is never accidental.

It’s carefully managed.

Franchise Coaches Insight

I’ve worked with businesses that became so focused on opening new locations that they neglected the franchisees already in their network.

That’s rarely sustainable.

Successful franchising isn’t measured by how many stores you open.

It’s measured by how many franchisees succeed.

Questions Every Franchisor Should Ask

After reflecting on my interview with Joe Boyle, I believe every franchisor should ask:

  • Do we truly understand our customer’s mission?
  • Are we making life easier for customers?
  • How well do we understand changing customer behaviour?
  • Are our franchisees connected to their local communities?
  • Are we delivering a consistently excellent experience?
  • Are we growing responsibly?

Final Thoughts

One of the things I enjoyed most about my conversation with Joe Boyle was that he continually brought the discussion back to the customer.

Not the competition.

Not the latest retail trends.

The customer.

That focus is one of the reasons FreshStop has continued to evolve in an increasingly competitive convenience retail market.

The strongest franchise systems don’t become successful because they have the best products.

They become successful because they understand people better than their competitors do.

For me, that was the biggest lesson from my interview with Joe.

Successful franchising doesn’t begin with the franchise.

It begins with the customer.

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